Today is all about books, but somehow we got into a long conversation about murderers (leave it to Susie to make that happen). We find out what books changed the way we see the world, why we’re so book crazy, and what type of things we like to read. But seriously, there is a lot of talk about murderers. Susie tells the story of a murderer she knew growing up. We discuss how the BTK autobiography is TOTALLY FASCINATING. Plus, we talk shit on the Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up and we make book recommendations for all you bookworms out there. Most importantly we interview Tom Krattenmaker author of Confessions of a Secular Jesus Follower. He is amazing and you will love him.